2.0T VW and Audi TSI Timing Chain Tensioner Problems

May 5, 2015
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VW and Audi 2.0T TSI Engines had some issues relating to the lower timing chain tensioner.   This includes both CCTA, CBFA, CAEB and CPMA engines from 2008-2015.  On this model these was an early version of this tensioner that may fail losing its hydraulic tension.

When the 2.0T TSI Timing Chain Tensioner Fails it can cause the intake or exhaust valves to contact the piston while the engine is running.  If this happens you will need the cylinder head to be removed and the valves to be replaced.  At this time you would also need to verify there was no further damage done to the pistons, cylinder walls or cylinder head.  This repair would cost $2-4K depending on the damage done.

 

Here is a basic 2.0T TSI Timing Chain Tensioner Service Kit

2.0t TSI Timing Chain Tensioner Update Kit

 

Here is the 2.0t TSI Timing Chain Replacement Kit (with updated tensioner)

2.0t TSI Timing Chain Kit

 

Here is a kit for if your 2.0t TSI has Bent Valves

2.0t TSI CCTA Bent Valve Kit

 

2.0t TSI Timing Chain Install Kit

2.0t TSI Timing Chain Tool Set

 

How do you know if this happened to your vehicle?  If this tensioner fails you could have any of the following issues.  Engine rattling noise at start up, No start condition (because the timing chain has jumped and you likely have significant engine damaged), as well as fault codes P0016 (Crank/ Cam position sensor correlation) or P0328 (Knock Sensor 1 Circuit High Input).

If you have a TSI you should considering replacing your tensioner as a preventative to ensure your engine does not jump timing and cause significant damage to your engine.  We have heard of these failing with fairly low miles (30K) on them. This part is found on the passenger (Right) side of the engine and the lower timing chain cover must be removed to access it.

 

What vehicles are affected?

Its tough to be certain but all of our research has led us to believe that any 2.0t TSI engine up to 2013 should be checked.  Its often been said some 2012 model have the old and some have the new.  Since we cant be 100% certain we recommend checking to be certain.

 

How Common is this?

It still remains to be seen how common this is, but here are my thoughts.  This issue it common enough that you absolutely positively should check yours.  Why?  Because not updating your tensioner and continuing to drive is a pretty big gamble.

 

What should I expect to pay?

You should be looking at roughly 5 hours labor just for updating the tensioner.  Doing this will ensure you get the newest revision in your vehicle, which should prevent future issues.

 

Previous Versions of this VW/Audi Tensioner are 06H-109-467-N, 06H-109-467-AB, 06H-109-467-T.  Be sure to get the most updated version at this time found Here.

 

 

How to check your TSI Timing Chain Tensioner

 

A little More Info from us on the 2.0t TSI Timing Chain Tensioners

 

To help bring a little more awareness around this issue we have put together these TSI Chain Gang Tshirts.  See below for more details on the failure of these Timing Chain Tensioners.

 

 

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168 Comments

on 2.0T VW and Audi TSI Timing Chain Tensioner Problems.
  1. Obel
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    Hey

    Will you guys make a DIY on this install?

    Thanks in advance 🙂

    • Paul Barrett
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      This is going to be a tough one. We will see what we can do but a DIY wouldn’t likely be any time soon.

  2. k3v0
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    This is very helpful! My timing chain tensioner went and my chain skipped last summer 🙁 On the bright side I only needed some new valves. If I was more aware of the issue ahead of time I would have much rather replaced it preventatively.

    • Paul Barrett
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      So sorry to hear about your troubles. Glad it was only valves and not the whole engine. Thanks for checking out the article, glad it was insightful for you.

  3. MKV Guy
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    DIY? This is like open heart surgery, you want it done right the first time.

    If you got the tools, and skills…go for it.

    • Paul Barrett
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      This job may not be for everyone as working with timing on and engine can be costly if you make any mistakes.

  4. Gianni
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    Thanks for bringing this critical topic. One thing that I don’t believe anyone agrees on is what specific items to replace when addressing this issue. I have heard from “change everything while you are there” to change the chain tensioner and cam bridge (loose screen can also cause this condition) with all the associated bolts/covers. What do you guys recommend to change? How long has this 4th revision been out?

    • Paul Barrett
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      The 4th revision has been around for a while. We don’t recommend replacing anything else unless its broken. Replacing the timing chain tensioner before you have an issue is intended to be a preventative. This will ensure that the tensioner doesn’t break causing bent valves.

    • Richard
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      My friend bought a 2009 Tiguan with a 2.0 L TSI. The engine was repaired after a timing chain tensioner failure. Bent valve were replaced, chain guides, and new updated tensioner.

      You mentioned a loose screen can cause this condition. What condition were you referring to? Is the screen you are referring to the one in the cam bridge covering a check valve I think it is?

      Problem we are getting now is CEL with P0341 (cam position sensor out of range). The cam sensor was replaced, but still have the code. What are the chances that the intake cam could have been damaged or stressed due to the out of timing condition? Thanks

      • Paul Barrett
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        Yes the screen referenced is the one on the cam bridge but its tough to know what the cause of your issue is. You will need to have someone dig in deeper to figure out whats up.

  5. Dan
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    Would also like to see a diy tensioner kit. I own a 2010 CC with 42k miles and have been thinking about intake manifold replacement along with intake valve cleaning. Have heard about tensioner issues and this is also on my list. Do appreciate your info series on this engine. Thanks

  6. |

    My neighbors 2009 Audi with the 2.0t had a timing chain tensioner failure with extensive damage. This just happened. Her car has 65k miles and and has had all maintenance performed by her dealer.
    in fact her car was at the dealer for about $1,000 worth of maintenance last month. She said if she was aware of this issue she would have okayed the tensioner replacement. I believe she would as she has spent thousands on repairs at the dealer.
    Anyway, the dealer is quoting 8 thousand to replace the engine. Hopefully the dealer will give her some goodwill as she has been a loyal customer.

    • Paul Barrett
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      I don’t believe most dealers are offering this as a preventative at this time. I can only assume this is because most customers would not take this info very well, and would feel like they shouldn’t have to pay for it. Hopefully they can get her taken car of. PS she might consider bringing to car to a VW dealer as they are just as capable of fixing the car without the labor rate or luxury car price hike.

    • Stephanie
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      Did she get any good will from VW? Mine just went at 80900 only 400 over my CPO warrenty and I am getting nothing but a quote for 9K to replace the engine on my CC

    • Stephanie
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      2012 VW CC with 80900 miles stopped working due to Timing Issues with the tensioner or a stretched timing chain as they said. I am 400 miles outside of my CPO warranty and was the original buyer on lease in 2011. I had three oil changes at a non VW dealership prior to this incident that used fully synthetic oil, but VW is saying that because I had my oil changed at a non VW dealership (outside influence) they will not cover the $9,000 engine repair as good will.

      Is this really happening????

      • Paul Barrett
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        Stephanie

        Sorry to hear about your troubles. Assuming the oil used when it was changed at the non dealer met the required spec (VW 502 00) then they really dont have grounds for stating that is the cause (unless you didn’t maintain the vehicle as per its requirements). The main issue there is no guarantee that the oil is what caused it in the first place. What it boils down to is your vehicle failed out of warranty, and they have no obligation to repair it under warranty. You might try to call VW Customer care and explain the situation as they might be able to help (1-800-822-8987). If that doesn’t work then we can help with the parts generally used to repair this. It sounds like you were quoted an engine. Take a look at this video as I explain this situation in a little more detail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVzZ5w4mt4.

      • Scott
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        I have a 2009 CC with 77000 miles on it and had the same exact issue. I had all of my oil changes done at the dealership and they are not giving me a break either. They are stating that because the drive train warranty is expired and they see no open service recalls or bulletins there is nothing they can do. I would like to know how prevalent this issue is since it seems to be an issue for a number of people. I believe at minimum VW should be notifying all owners of the issue so thy can be aware and take the appropriate actions. I would’ve rather spent $800 to pay for an updated tentioner instead of paying $9000 for a new engine. It’s sad. I love my CC, but they are forcing my hand to do something.

        • Paul Barrett
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          Its tough to say exactly how common it is. Im sorry to hear about your troubles and hopefully you can get it resolved right away.

    • Mac
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      I have a 2009 Audi A4 with 98 K miles and the timing change tensioner just failed and I just paid almost $1000 in maintenance 40 days prior to the issue. The dealershiop is telling me to replace the engine. I am trying to determine the action to take. Did you neighbor decide to get the engine replaced?

  7. Silva
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    Hey

    The Audi A5 2009 1.8 TFSI has the same problem ?

    Regards

  8. Den
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    How much would it cost for me to bring my car into the dealer and have them replace it?

  9. Luc
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    Hi. I have an 09 tsi 2.0. It seems to have a timing chain/tensioner problem . All cylinders are without compression . It was parked in working condition but the next day it would not start. What i am wondering if the timing is off it can be without compression . Or if the valves are simply bent.

    Thanks in advance.

    • Paul Barrett
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      If your 2.0t jumped timed there is no question the valves are bent. The bent valve are almost certainly the cause of your no compression. Unfortunately you’ll have to remove the head get new valves and timing chain parts. Sorry to hear about your troubles.

  10. John
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    Hi there. 2010(manufactured)/2011(model) A3 8P Sportback with CCZA Engine owner here.

    How can I be sure I have the older tensioner model? Is there anywhere I can check with my chassis number or something? Heard cases of same engine year and type going for preventive maintenance and sometimes finding the old tensioner model and and other times finding the already post mod model.
    How can I be sure I really be to chance it?
    My car currently have 26k miles on it.

    Thank you!
    Best regards from Brazil.

  11. Carol
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    The timing chain failed on my 2009 (put in service new in 2010) VW Passat resulting in catastrophic engine damage. The
    service manual recommends replacement at 80K; my vehicle has 77K. I have taken great care of the vehicle and
    had all services performed by the dealership. This car is in mint condition and was my “baby.” VW is offering to
    pay 75% of the costs, however, after reading all the issues and problems with timing belts and chains on these vehicles that
    it is a design flaw in the engine. This is my third Passat and probably my last. I am very disappointed and look for
    direction or information.

    • Paul Barrett
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      If they are willing to pay for 75% you should probably take the dealer. You don’t really have another alternative as your vehicle is worth very little the way it currently sits.

  12. robin
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    concerning chain tensioner failure: in your experience, when these failures occur, are warning signs usually present? as far as timing chain tensioner failures go, im fairly experienced in knowing what to listen for as they tend to fail, but if there were cold start rattling symptoms for me to watch out for i think i may wait for that to happen rather than tear apart something currently in working order. or is this a situation where, one day i might wake up, hear a rattle, and immediately have the timing jump on me?

    • Paul Barrett
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      Sounds like you are familiar with the VR6 timing chains. The problem is the tensioner lets loose. There isnt really a warning to my knowledge, which is why this should be considered as a preventative.

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        Hi I have a A3 Quattro 2.0l CCZA engine (UK Model) first registered in May 2012. I know there are now around 4 versions of this tensioner that have been released and I think I have had some tell tell signs. Rattle on start up (but not cold strangely) What are the chances I have the latest version fitted when the car was manufactued? My car is still under Warrenty so if it is at fault I want to get fixed sooner rather than later as it will loose its manufacturer Warrenty in June of next year.

        • Paul Barrett
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          I’m sorry being a UK model means we don’t have specific experience on that car.

        • Pp
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          Same engine ccza audi a3 2.0 and same start up rattle noise on cold or warm engine… Nick, do you found the problem ? Is this the chain tensioner ?

  13. Jerry
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    If I bring the 2.0 TSI UPDATED TENSIONER KIT to the dealer and ask them to replace, how much will it cost?

  14. Vinay
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    Hi,

    I have a A6 2.0 TFSI, year 2007, engine BPJ. I am experiencing some unusual sounds from the engine which sounds like a diesel engine. It has 121,000 KM on it.

    You think that I should change the camshaft adjuster, the chain and the chain tensioner as well.

    Your advice would be greatly appreciated.

    Many Thanks

    • Paul Barrett
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      You should probably consider bringing the vehicle to a VW and Audi specialist and not driving until the issue is addressed. That is not something we can really offer much advice on.

  15. Carlos pimentel
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    Hi i have a 2010 gti that one day just threw a cel i ran the code and it was p0016 camshaft position etc but car still ran like normal. I noticed a longer crank on start up and babied the car a short distance home car still ran normally at the time. While it was parked i changed spark plugs following some advixe from vwvortex regarding p0016 code and cars still had CEL even after change. And still idled normally i scanned for codes again and again saw no misfires . I let the car sit for a few hours and when i went to turn it on to try and diagnose again the idle was REALLY rough and immediately shit off the engine and scanned for codes and found codes for misfire in cylinder 1 and 4 on top of original p0016. I tried switching coilpacks from 1-4 same results and when i replaced coil packs all together car idle a tad smoother enough for me to hear rattling at which point i shut off the car immediatley. Im convinced my tensioner has gone out my only question is do you think it could have bent the valves or caused significant engine damage in the short amount of time it was on. Car has not been turned on since and i have an appointment this weekend at my local vw dealer. Do the valves bend before the symptoms of the tensioner show themselves or fingers crossed have i just caught the tensioner as its failing and can hope for only a tensioner replacetment job and no motor work

    • Paul Barrett
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      Im sorry to say but most likely you have bent valves at this point. Your best hope its that if it has jumped time it only jumped 1 tooth but I wouldn’t make that assumption. In the end we cant tell you if the valves are bent but you should not start it anymore. Once you get the vehicle towed to the dealer they should be able to help you determine what the cause is.

  16. Barry Merchant
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    The timing chain broke on my 2009 Tiguan. Prior to that I had an intermittent little clunk or thunk as I was slowing down. I thought it was a transmission problem but it was checked and found to be okay. Could a loose timing belt have caused the symptoms I was getting?

    • Paul Barrett
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      Most likely the noise was not related to the timing chain but its really tough to say for sure.

  17. Mark L
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    My 2.0 TSI failed on our ’09 Tiguan. Is there a kit with all the valves, tensioner and special tool. Price?

    Taking the engine apart for the R&R most of us can do that but the biggest stumbling block are instructions for properly retiming the engine. Who wants to buy the parts install them then having to replace them again if missed timed.

    Perhaps you could package timing instructions with purchase of the parts.

    • Paul Barrett
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      Mark

      We recently put together this kit which should help someone with the parts they need when they are in your unfortunate situation.
      http://deutscheautoparts.com/vw-audi-2-0-tsi-bent-valve-kit.html

      As far as the instructions are concerned we don’t have anything at this time. You should likely consider getting a bentley manual for your vehicle as it should have more details about this install for you.

  18. Sudhan
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    I have a 2010 VW Passat. It is 5 years and 4 months old and had run 72K miles. The car just wouldn’t start one day and the dealer mentioned that the timing chain was off its timing and it made the valves hit the pistons and cause internal damage to the engine. They are suggesting that I replace the engine and gave me a quote for $8500. VW is agreeing to cover 70% of the expense. I will have to shell out close about $2700. Not sure if it will be a new engine, but, do you think its worth the money if its a new engine? Should I negotiate with VW further as I have taken my car to dealer maintenance at all recommended times?

  19. Steve
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    This just happened to me yesterday with my wife’s 2009 Passat (less than 60,000 miles). My local mechanic is advising me to call VW and work with them to fix it since its a known design flaw. Dreading this conversation as my local dealership is typically less then helpful, and i cannot afford to be $8k in the hole.

    Any advice from other commenter’s on how they have pitched this to VW in order to come to a mutually fair arrangement?

  20. Paul
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    How common is the TSI tensioner failure? I have a 2011 GTI and have been affected by some of the other common Mk6 items (high pressure fuel pump, water pump). My car has 58,000 miles on it, so I am very close to being out of Powertrain warranty. Should I look into replacing the tensioner at this point? What is the typical cost of having a shop do the replacement?

    • Paul Barrett
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      You should seriously consider doing this as the cost to repair your engine would be very very expensive. You would likely be looking at around $500 labor.

      • Paul
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        Thanks for the quick reply! I have scheduled this service, and the price I was quoted for parts & labor is $750 which seems quite reasonable.

        • Paul Barrett
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          No problem. Let us know if you need to parts. We can save you money there as well.

  21. Brian
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    Hi, just to let the readers know, this problem occurred in my engine causing complete engine failure and new engine required. Skoda unwilling to help despite only 55k miles and full dealer service history.

  22. Caue
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    Hello! Great website congratz

    I would to know if the A3 2.0t CCZA EA888 year 2011 comes with the problematic tensioner.

    Thank you!

    • Caue
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      I would like**

    • Paul Barrett
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      No Ea888 should use a different tensioners

      • Avinash Menon
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        I have a 2012 CDAA engine (Octavia 1.8TSI)which was diagnosed with extra metallic noise during idling. Apparently the timing chain tensioner had lost its hydraulic tension partially, a small slack developed in the timing chain, it started rubbing against the timing chain cover (lower) and creating the noise. We were saved for finding the problem early, and our car had done only 25000miles (40,000KM here in India).

        The EA888 CCZA also shares the same faulty tensioners depending, especially in the OP’s 2011 car.

  23. Cyril
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    Thanks Paul for the website and great service you provide for the VW family!
    I’m a 2010 gti owner with barely 40k on it and seriously considering this as a preventive maintenance but did VW come up with a TSB # for this specific issue?

    • Paul Barrett
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      I believe there may have been a TSB but keep in mind that is not the same as a recall.

  24. Tony
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    There was a reference a little earlier to the EA888 engine and you indicated it had “different tensioners”. I have a 2010 jetta with the 2.0T engine and it’s the CBFA coded EA888. Are you saying this engine doesn’t have the tensioner problem?

    • Paul Barrett
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      CBFA engines are not EA888 engines and still use the same timing chain tensioner.

  25. Rob
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    Just found out that the tensioner in my 2009 Passat is part number 06H-109-467-N. As far as I can tell, this is the problematic version. Can anyone confirm?

    • Paul Barrett
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      Any version that is not the most current should be replaced. That is an older version.

      • Rob
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        Damn. That’s not good news. Some forums seemed to indicate the -N variant was OK. The car was manufactured March 23, 2009 and has 110,000 kms (68,350 miles). I guess replacing it now would be a good idea. Looks like I’ll be purchasing a kit.

        Thanks for the quick response.

  26. Terrance taylor
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    What is a rough mileage estimate for the life of the upper and lower timing chains and guides.

    • Paul Barrett
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      Chains do not have a service interval but you should consider replacing them probably over 150k or if you are going in there for some reason at a lower mileage.

  27. Cal Webster
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    What kind of damage to the cam could result in the tensioner failing? We brought it into a mechanic and he replaced the chain and tensioner, and the engine runs well above 2500 RPM’s. However, it still idles very roughly and sometimes will not even start. He believes it may have to do with the cam phaser being damaged or a screen being blocked. Could this be the case?

    • Paul Barrett
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      If the tensioner fails your valves will contact the piston. This will bend the valve and will result in at best a poor running engine.

      • Cal Webster
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        He confirmed the valves checked out fine and the chain had not slipped. Thanks for the info. However, the cam timing is still off, retarded or advanced and its throwing misses all over the place and occasionally won’t start. Something in the cam is very wrong and it may well be because of the prior oil starvation in the engine (mechanic drained only 1.5 qt out of the engine, even though the car had oil changed less than 5k ago.

        A screen filter in the cam had become dislodged, possibly causing problems with oil flow into the cam – a problem referenced by this website – http://www.excelerateperformance.com/news/2-0t-tsi-timing-chain-tensioner. Could this have all been caused by the tensioner? Or was it because of the low oil pressure? Would you recommend a replacement of cam+housing, or the entire engine at this point due to the oil starvation?

        • Paul Barrett
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          Im sorry you will need to look into this further. There is no blanket solution to your issue. You will need to have this properly diagnosed the a VW expert. Without that its an educated guess at best.

  28. J Dub
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    How can you tell if the chain has slipped? Mine is definitely not tight, so I’m guessing the chain tensioner has failed.

    • Paul Barrett
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      You will have to check the timing

  29. Sola
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    This just happened to me 2 days ago. Passat 2.0T FSI, 2006. Low rattling sound has been on for months but became very loud intermittently a day before the incident (on a 700km journey). Tensioner head broken, chain found on the tensioner rod, not broken though. Timing still in sync.

    Could I be lucky that the valves aint bent? I’m trying not to open the top if possible.

    Kindly advice.

      • Artur
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        I just purchase a 2006 Audi A4 2.0T. I did not notice the engine noise. After leave the dealer the engine become hot and the engine now sounds like diesel car. I don’t think I have any turbo issue or loss of power, but I am worried about the engine blow out or any kind of damage. The car is 120k miles and I don’t know if the tensioner was replaced or not. How can I identify the problem? Many people online post explanations about that problem and a lot of them report it as normal. I don’t think so, when that car was new, I do not believe it had that diesel, know, knog, know sound from the engine. Please help me to identify the problem and cost to fix. I will try to have it done together with the person who sold the car.
        Thanks

  30. Leon
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    Hi Paul.. I have a 2009 VW CC, 2 days ago car started normally, no unusual noises.. After maybe 20 mins of highway driving check engine indicator began flashing and EPC indicator illuminated, check engine went off eventually while EPC stayed on.. And there’s a sort of surging vibration from the engine when accelerating/ can be felt slightly when idle.. Parked and haven’t started it since.. Does this sound like the dreaded Tensioner Failure? Or *fingers crossed* bad coils? Thanks in advance..

    • Paul Barrett
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      Im sorry but I cant really offer you much insight based on this description. You should bring it to a local VW specialist to help.

  31. Jason
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    Hello, I have a 2010 2.0T Passat with 107k miles. The car has been exclusively dealership serviced at or before every required service interval with necessary required maintenance and preventative maintenance performed. About a month ago, the car began to run roughly when the motor was cold, then would settle in and be fine once it warmed up. At start up, the CEL would come on when the motor ran roughly and then would stay on, but no blink. I took the car in immediately and they identified the issue as a cam position sensor, which was replaced and seemed to solve the problem. A month went by with no issue, and on the way home from work the issue began again. This time, the car ran much rougher and while idling in traffic the CEL would blink. After the light came on the second time I drove the car a total of 15 miles before taking it back in (this time to a trusted independent shop). They went through standard steps to diagnose the problem and determined the tensors gave out and the chain moved 3.5 positions. With that background, I have two questions – 1) is it common for this issue to occur so quickly and so drastically (3.5 positions)? 2) because this is a known issue, has anyone had luck getting VW to cover the cost of repair (currently estimated at $1400 if there isn’t valve damage).

    • Paul Barrett
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      Jason

      Sorry to hear about your troubles. We have not heard of anyone getting any coverage for a failed tensioner. In regards to the valve damage you can be pretty certain based on what you have mentioned you have bent valves. This can be an exceptionally expensive repair. We have put together a kit for people in your situation. Take a look here. http://deutscheautoparts.com/vw-audi-2-0-tsi-bent-valve-kit.html

  32. Chris
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    Does anyone know what years the newest version of the tensioner started to be installed on?

    • Paul Barrett
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      As far as I know they started somewhere in 2013 so any vehicle from 2013 should be checked. 2014 and newer should be ok, but checking it to be sure cant hurt.

  33. pat
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    I was considering buying a 2016 GTI and keeping it for 10 years/100000 miles. In your opinion what are the chances I’ll have to replace the timing chain tensioners? Have there been any known failures with the latest update?

    • Paul Barrett
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      The new MK7 models dont have this issue as far as we know at this time, so you should worry about that on this model.

  34. Corey
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    2009 2.0T Tiguan, 60K miles – On the first leg of a long trip, about 2 hours from home, I suddenly started hearing a rattle from the top of the engine. Sounded like a tinny metal-on-metal sound from the valve cover, mostly when in the 1,500 – 2,500 RPM range. No codes, engine ran fine. Figured it was the tensioner starting to get loose. It was due for oil change so I figured maybe oil was low, so oil pressure would be low, causing tensioner to provide less than normal tension. Checked oil, indeed it was low (about a quart low). Topped off oil, but sound continued. Drove it another ~250 miles to finish the trip, and the sound suddenly went away.
    Next day, brought the Tiguan to a dealer to replace the tensioner (I wanted it changed whether it was the cause of the sound or not). They say they cannot hear the rattle (again, rattle had stopped on the ride home) and engine runs fine, no codes). They say they can replace the tensioner to the tune of $1800 (!!!). Seems to me like maybe it was just due to low oil, and the tensioner got stuck because oil pressure was low, then adding oil allowed it to raise and get “unstuck”. The car is sitting at the dealer now, awaiting my decision. Should I just ask them to change the oil and hope the rattle doesn’t come back? Or just replace the tensioner as a preventative measure?

    • Paul Barrett
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      That seems pretty expensive to replace the tensioner. You should be looking at roughly 4-6 hours labor which on average would be $400-600 labor.

  35. Mike Kingzett
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    Hello, I have a 2012 SE 4Motion Tiguan with 17k miles. It is just out of 3y/36k warranty. Should I start to worry about the timing chain tensioner issue? I havent check the model yet, but according to your saying, the 2012 model should have flaw designed one. So do you have any advise I should take currently? Please let me know. Thanks in advance.

    • Paul Barrett
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      You should consider changing your tensioner as you likely have the old one and are at risk of damage. Even with low mileage the only way to know you are safe is to get the updated version in your vehicle

  36. Vincent
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    Hello, I’m considering buying a used 2013 Q5 2.0T and after doing some research about potential problems of that model I found your website. You mention on the third paragraph of this page that this issue affect “both CCTA, CBFA, CAEB and CPMA engines from 2008-2015.” but later on the page you mention the that the K version of the tensioner was introduced sometime in 2012. I just want to confirm that going 2013 and up I will have the K version factory installed.

    Thank you

    • Paul Barrett
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      Vincent. There is no way for us to be sure as there has never been an official release that determines what build dates received the updated tensioner. With that said if you are planning to purchase you can always have the tensioner inspected to be sure.

  37. Nick
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    I just recently bought a CPO 2013 CC. I am going back to the dealership next weekend and just want to make sure that the K version is the one that I want to have on the car being that it is the most recent update? Also is this something that is covered under warranty to replace if I have one of the faulty versions?

    Thanks in advance.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      No updating your tensioner would not be covered under warranty, and neither would checking it. If you want them to check yours you will need to pay the labor to do so.

  38. Josh
    |

    I’d like to know how I can reassemble my timing chain tensioner. I have the “K” update version. I had an accident where the spring, orange plastic and the hub came off.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Im sorry we dont have DIY details on this specific part.

  39. Rain
    |

    I have a 2009 A4 2.0t engine code CAEB. My car started to feel like it wasn’t responding or handling as well as it normally did. On top of that, my oil sensor kept returning, within 2-3 weeks of getting an oil change. It was rediculous! Then one day i tried to start my car after driving it and it being fine hours before and it was running extremely rough in idle, to where it was shaking! I immediately thought my timing chain jumped in advanced. I could not drive it an hour to get home so I got it towed and after a couple weeks it wouldn’t start. Took it to Audi and they first told me engine damage, then after further inspection said bent valves from hitting Pistons. another mechanic said to replace engine but it seems to be recurring problem. I’m thinking of taking the cylinder head to a machine shop, timing chain and tensioner, and new Pistons and rings. Thoughts?

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      It sounds like you need a timing chain setup and a re ring job. Shoot us an email with your VIN we can help you get the parts you need at a great price.

  40. Tim M
    |

    I have a 2011 Audi A3 with the 2.0 TFSI motor & I’m confused.
    You state that the CCTA motor is affected, but the EA888 motor should have a different tensioner. My 2.0TFSI R4 engine code CCTA—KZS (from the warranty VIN sticker) is, I think, an Ea888 based motor. VIN is WAUPFA FM 9 BA146128 if that helps.

    Can you confirm whether my car should get the updated tensioner?

    Thanks for time!

    Tim

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Tim

      Yes I have confirmed that your vehicle does indeed use the TSI parts. You should consider checking and or replacing your tensioner.

      Thanks
      Paul

  41. Bryon Landerman
    |

    With all of these repeated issues for this same problem, why hasn’t a recall been issued?

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      I’m sorry we cant offer any insight on that but its important to note if you update your tensioner and they perform a recall, you would be eligible for reimbursement. Be sure to save your receipts.

  42. Rob Rob
    |

    My wife’s 2010 A4 Avant is dead at the dealer with the odo reading 82k. It’s shocking the number of VW/Audi chain tensioner problems I’ve seen on this website and others. In fact, I read of a potential class action lawsuit brewing. Dealer is quoting $6500 to replace the cylinder heads + timing components. (labor = 3100, parts 3100, tax = 400). Given the magnitude of the problem, I’m curious about the likelihood of getting Audi/VW to cover the costs – partially or fully. Regards.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Sorry to hear about your troubles. We have help you out with the parts you need at a discount for sure. In regards to if Audi is going to do anything I dont have any way to know that. At this point from my understanding they have not been paying for any repairs at this time.

  43. Scott
    |

    My engine oil pressure light went off last Monday on my way to work in a place I couldn’t pull over, so had to drive about another mile. Towed it to the shop and when they did their investigation they found the tensioner had failed. Luckily everything else seems to be ok from what they have told me. Also they checked the oil pan and evidently the previous owner had not always used the right spec of oil. Should get the car back today with $2200 out of pocket. It was an 06 A4.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Sorry to hear about your troubles. The engine in that car wouldn’t have been the TSI with this same issue. Losing oil pressure is always bad news.

      • Scott
        |

        Glad to hear it wouldn’t have been the same issue(other than less likely there will ever be a recall, will still save my receipt just in case). They have everything fixed but the check engine light came on after the tensioner, timing shaft, and gear pin replacements as well as the cleaning out the oil system of the sludge that was present. New issue based on a google search sounds like a cam shaft sensor needs to be replaced but I’ll wait for the experts to tell me as my car knowledge is very little.

  44. Gustavo
    |

    I drive a 2009 Audi A4 with engine code CAEB, I just replaced the water pump since it was leaking and I was thinking replacing timing band but the mechanics told me there wasn’t one in my vehicle. Mine has about 107,000 miles on it, and been very reliable, when would you recommend replacing timing chain? I have no issues whatsoever with this vehicle, thanks!

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      If you are planning to keep this car you might want to replace all the timing chain parts if you are replacing the timing chain tensioner. You should def consider looking at the tensioner. In short you should probably replace the timing chain parts and tensioners if youre looking to keep your Audi long term.

  45. Gustavo
    |

    Paul, I just found out that I purchased an oil pressure sensor I think , with the D revision, I bought it because I had CEL coming on and off, since the replacement was performed I haven’t had any issues.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Im sorry Im not certain but is this a question?

  46. JP
    |

    My dealer replaced the timing chain and related parts on my 2011 VW CC. Now, 3-4 weeks after I am having issues with my water pump. I believe there is a relationship with the timing chain and water pump. Could this be related? I have 90,000 miles. Thanks

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Nope this is almost certainly not related

  47. JEFF
    |

    What happens if the screen from the bridge at the top for the camshafts comes out? I’ve been told you have to replace something called a phaser? as part of the camshaft (intake) at some ridiculous price. Can it not be cleaned out? and I saw a picture of all the chains and guides at what extent of parts needed? all the chains guides or just the main one.

    Thanks,
    Jeff

  48. Armando
    |

    Hello Paul,
    Thank you very much for all your answers, I’m thinking about replacing the tensioner after reading about the problem the old version causes.
    I have a GTI 2010 with around 106K miles. Right now the car is throwing the code P0341 camshaft sensor and also the EPC light. I’m not sure if updating the tensioner will resolve the problem but after reading what happens if the old version fails I’m definitely going to replace it. I’ll maybe replace the sensor as well.
    Anyways, my question is, do I also need to order any of the bolts or the contents of your 2.0T TSI Timing Chain Tensioner Service Kit (Basic) are going to be enough?
    This kit : http://deutscheautoparts.com/tsi-timing-chain-tensioner-service-kit.html

    Thanks again for your response, you guys are great!

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Planning to answer on the AskDAP episode 31 but basically if the fault was caused by the car jumping timing by 1 tooth then replacing the tensioner will not fix this as the engine will need to be retimed.

      • Armando
        |

        Thanks for the quick reply!

        The EPC light goes away by itself or sometimes when I turn off and then restart the car. Sometimes it just comes on for 1 or 2 seconds and then goes away. It can be fine for a couple of days and randomly show up. Its very weird, I used an scanner and got the code p0341.

        • Paul Barrett
          |

          sounds like a sporadic issue. It could be related to oil pressure or a cam sensor problem. It will require more diag.

          • Armando
            |

            That’s what the dealership said, we are trying replacing the Cam Sensor first and see if that helps.

            But after reading about the chain tensioner problem I got really worried. I might just go ahead and replace it to sleep well. 😀

            Thanks again! I’ll post the results after replacing the sensor.

          • Armando
            |

            So after replacing the Cam position sensor and also doing the valve and intake manifold carb buildup cleaning I still have the same problem. Now I also get a CEL , codes p0341, p0651 and p2138.
            This is getting frustrating.

      • Armando
        |

        Hello Paul,

        I think I found the problem, I was researching online and found this:

        http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5293518-MKV-GTI-Throttle-body-wiring-harness-repair

        After moving the cable and connector a little to give it more wiggle the problem seems to be gone, I’m going to have my local VW shop do it.
        Maybe you guys can research it more and do a good DIY video, maybe even sell a kit to update the cables and connectors.

        Thanks for all the help and info. !

  49. werner wilhelm
    |

    you sell all de parts for a timing chain a tensioner a rails but you don’t have the tools ?????for de repair you can not install de parts wit out tool 10531 there is no way

    • werner wihelm
      |

      the tool kit you have is a diff. kit the kit I mint is 10531 to hold the crankshaft gear to crankshaft????? please supply a picture to your tool kit??? the one you have

  50. Tamer
    |

    Would I have to replace the timing chain tensioner again in another 80k?

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      As far as we know the updated tensioners are not failing

  51. Gary
    |

    We had just bought a used 2009 Touran 1.4 TSi 170HP (CAVB) with 92,000 km on it when I found out about the high rate of failure of the timing chain tensioner, a fault also commonly found in this engine (noting that this article is on the 2.0T TSi engine). Needless to say, I am now kicking myself for not doing more than thinking it is always safe buying a VW. Our engine rattles every now and then but I am already basket case from paranoia (says the wife). My question: Is the replacement part, of the latest version i.e 06H-109-467-Q from the parts catalog, the same one for my engine? Are both the mentioned engines sharing this common part? The reason I am asking is because I still am unsuccessful in locating a part number specifically for my engine. I am contemplating changing the tensioner and/or chain while the engine is still operational. I just want to avoid the unfortunate, or even deadly, event of the engine seizing up while the wifey is out with the kids. Thanks!

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Im sorry we dont know as the Touran is not a US model so we cant offer much insight. You should get with your local dealer to see if they can help

  52. garyskoda1
    |

    I have a Skoda Octavia 1.8 tsi , the chain jumped due to a faulty tensioner, lucky no engine damage but still cost £1332 to put it right.

  53. John Zaccardi
    |

    Hi there, I’m having trouble understanding exactly what I have to replace on my 2.0T A3 2010 (CCZA). It has 28k miles on it and I’m planning on replacing the tensioner alone, but it’s not clear enough to me that this will get the issue covered 100%. I have some people saying that the chain itself carries an issue that can cause it to fail. I’m o replacing the tensioner alone or should I replace the chains, guides, etc?
    Thank you very much! Kind regards from Brazil

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      If you are keeping the vehicle long term replacing all chains, guides and tensioners is a good idea.

  54. Roman
    |

    Great site! When you say “… replacing all chains, guides and tensioners is a good idea.” do you have a list of specific items that would be included in the parts to be replaced? Mine is the 2.0T TFSI (CAEB) engine in a 2012 Audi Q5. Thanks!

  55. Stephen
    |

    Hi, I have a 2010 Audi A4 2.0 and I have no compression on the engine and it won’t start. Is this a common issue? Does it usually happen after people turn their car off and hope to return to a
    Car running? And can this cause damage to the Pistons, if in fact bent valves? Thank you!!!

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      You will have to get it checked out but it sounds like you might have bent valves. It can cause damage to the pistons but generally wont. Sorry for what seems like bad news. Hope it works out.

  56. Sebastian
    |

    Hi Paul,

    Great info here on the website and on your Youtube channel, top notch stuff. I’ve been digging around for info online re; the timing chain tensioner issue and the only official reference I can find is from a TSB which names the CCTA and CBFA engines as the culprits.

    Why would VW only specify 2 engines under TSB if more are affected? Correct me if I’m wrong please, but it seems as though this issue has been blown somewhat out of proportion and what was only supposed to apply to 2 engine codes, has been inferred to apply to all engines 2.0 TSI motors.

    I am an engineer in automotive industry (prev. aerospace) and my job is to issue service bulletins, recalls, modifications, etc. If CCTA and CBFA engines are called out, then there is likely a reason that the tensioners on those engines were a bad revision of the component (revision ‘H’ I believe?), but not necessarily the tensioners across all other engines. The source of some confusion could be that the bad Rev. H tensioners on CBFA and CCTA engines share the same general part number and resemblance as good tensioners on the rest of the engine line-up

    It’s easy to believe that all tensioners are affected when forums are full of statements saying they are… but what facts are these statements based on? Having a hand full of people (lets say 10 people) have their ‘good’ tensioners fail within the normal scatter (of lets say 200,000 vehicals) is a conservative 0.005% failure rate. All it takes is for some of these people to say that the ‘good’ tensioners are defective and everyone takes it as fact.

    I just want to cut through the here-say / hype / and paranoia and find out which tensioners are actually the bad ones?
    what revision tensioner is it?
    Is it all tensioners of this revision or just one batch / one supplier – which happened to be destined to only make their way to assembly lines where CCTA and CBFA engines were made.?

    Any info would be appreciated,
    A concerned MY10 GTI (CCZB engine) owner.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      The CCTA and CBFA pretty much make up all TSI engines in the US. I am not familiar with the CCZB engine but I presume this is a non US model so I cant offer specifics about that. Please let me know if that is the case.

      • Sebastian
        |

        CCZB engines are what you get on Australian GTI’s as far as I know.

        I just kind of hope that the problem is isolated to the American CCTA and CBFA engines due to a bad batch or a crappy supplier.

  57. Adam
    |

    You should really include or at least reference the correct TTY bolting in your timing chain tensioner kits. Having to find and purchase replacement crank pulley and other TTY bolts separately is a bit of an annoyance for anyone doing this upgrade.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Thanks for the feedback. We will look into this.

  58. Kenneth T
    |

    Hey Paul,

    I just completed a full top end /front end rebuild of my 09 CC’s CCTA 2.0 liter engine. Timing jumped due to a failed tensioner at 120k and bent 8 exhaust valves and 6 intakes. Other than vatting, cleaning and spec’ing the head and installing used valves and seals which my machine shop guy did, I did all of the work at home in my garage with the engine in the car.
    Front end of the engine can be accessed after supporting the motor and removing the front engine mount. Purely for feedback purposes only:

    1. I struggled with information on the TTY head bolts, crankshaft balancer bolt and the head/cam cover bolts, ad torque specs for the lower tensioner, intake cam locking ring, etc.. Some kind of insert would help tremendously. I ended up spending $29 on a subscription to alldatadiy.com and it was less than desirable, with quite a bit of information just plain missing.
    2. No sealants. It would have been handy to have the sealants in the kit. One less trip to the parts store.
    3. How about an oil filter? The kit I bought included the oil so it’s weird that it didn’t include a filter.
    4. Some kind of Bill of Materials or packing checklist in the box that lists all of the items along with their descriptions. I was able to remove the head without disconnecting the turbo lines and ended up having to go the the website to look up the part numbers to make sure I wasn’t missing anything.
    5. Include an o-ring for the oil dipstick tube. They’re cheap and easy to replace since you already have the tube pulled. I had an o-ring kit to choose from but others may not have that and it’s best to change it while it’s out of the car.
    6. Notes about some specialized tools you’ll need like the polydrive for the head bolts or the triple-square bits for things like the front engine bracket, the intake manifold bracket and the heat shield.

    I know you can’t make everyone happy all the time and there are a few more things that I could put up here, but they are more specific to my project, so I won’t waste your time. Overall, I am very pleased with the kit that I bought and the value of the bundled package. If I had to do this again, I would surely purchase from shopdap.com. Your parts are all genuine VW/AUDI (no shortcuts in quality there) and well packaged for shipping.

    This is a very involved repair. I saved myself probably close to $3k by doing it myself, but if things went South the cost would have been much more I’m sure. Technically, this is the most challenging repair that I’ve made out of the dozens of vehicles I’ve worked on, specifically due to the precise timing settings on the balancing shaft and cam timing chains. Without the proper tools, such as the cam locks, harmonic balancer tool, camshaft nut tool, etc. this job is impossible to complete.

    Car is running like a champ and with the new parts and proper tension on the timing chain, along with cleaning the intake ports and dividers when the heads got rebuilt, I’ve already seen a 3-4 mpg increase.

    Thanks for the support.

    Kenneth

  59. Jorgr Rivera Ramos
    |

    cilynderhead recent repair and replace the timing chain tensioner with the update, but now when I turn on my car chain Have a noise as if out of time, but no check engine on and everything works perfect … how could I do to that does not make that noise? i have 2009 GTI tsi

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      You will need to have the timing checked. I would suggest bringing it to a shop to have it looked at

  60. Ade Adekanmbi
    |

    Hello,
    First, I will like to commend you guys on the work you are doing.

    We have a 2012 pre-update body VW CC TSI which has jumped time. VIN:WVWMP7AN5CE503949.
    These are my questions;
    1. Could help check the VIN to know the engine code; CCTA, CBFA…?
    2. Will a CAEB cylinder head from a 2010 Audi A4(gathered the CAEB have this exhaust valve lift feature) work in the CC since we have one laying around.
    3. Is it only the CAEB engines that have the exhaust valve lift feature, or this has also been included in engine codes CCTA,CBFA, CCZA… At a later production date?
    4. Can the exhaust cams be swapped, i.e non valve lift for the valve lift and work?

    Will appreciate your thoughts in these questions.

    Thanks.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      1. You have a CBFA engine
      2. Not they are very different only CBFA will work
      3. Not sure but CCTA and CBFA do not have valve lift
      4- No

  61. |

    Hi, I would like to know if there is a way to find out if you have the new tensioner by giving the VIN to a VW dealership. I have recently checked to see if I have the old one, and judging by the silver end without the clip or black shaft means it is the old one. However, you stated in the video that you are able to see the number to know for certain, but the number was of no appearance. Thank you.

  62. Stéphanie L
    |

    You can add me to the list. 2009 Audi A4, about 130k miles. All servicing exclusively done at the dealership where I bought the car CPO. On Friday, July 1, 2016, experienced the shuttering while idling, then check engine light flashing. Called for service appointment immediately. Day of the appointment, car wouldn’t start. Had to have car towed to dealer. They told me that it’s a failed timing chain that caused bent valves in engine. Repair quote is $5500. Still got 18 months left on car note. Clearly this is becoming a pattern as so many people are experiencing this. FYI I’m located in Rhode Island.

  63. Dan
    |

    Same problem. 75k on my 2012 cc. Replaced tensioner, chain, and guides. Luckily my car hard started with CEL out of the blue so I took it straight to the shop. Luckily no severe engine damage. Still a $1600 repair. Would be nice if VW would make owners aware of his issue.

  64. Kagiso
    |

    Hi Paul, I have had an engine failure on my A5 2.0 tfsi quattro. The engine had a serious misfire and turned out the Balancing Shaft was damaged.

    The Balancing Shaft, Water Pump, Both Chains, Both Tensioners and all chain guides were replaced. The head valves re-sitted , head pressure tested and pistons checked.

    I got the car back from the repair shop but it eats a lot of gas now though it has a lot of power. The engine is not exactly smooth in idle as it as some tapping/rattle noise.

    The car also throws black like smoke which smells confusing, not too sure how to discribe the smell. This was not there before the balancing shaft issue.

    I believe the smoke could be rich fuel mixture or oil. I need you to assist me by identifying what this smoke (light black) could be and what the cause might be as this was picked up after the repair and what could be the fix.

    Thank you for such a wonderful page, really is impressive.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Sounds like fuel its likely running rich

  65. Gareth
    |

    Hi Paul,
    Great work on this site, I’ve also recently suffered from the dreadful chain tensioner failure which bent the intake valves. I wish I did the research first as this could have so easily been avoided. My car is a 2010 A5 2.0TFSI CDNC, I’ve changed the head (brand new with valves from Audi), cam chain, guides and all tensioners, But the car is now misfiring on idle and has lost about 30-40% of power. It will also backfire through the intake when revved. The first thing I thought is that it must be the timing, however I’ve checked this 3 times with the VAS 6079 tool and it is perfect. Have you heard of any issues with the variable timing on the intake failing and causing this type of problem. I know from reading online the is a 60 degree variance possible. I’ve ordered a bearing saddle as the screen is half worn (another common issue). I’ve changed the PSV on top of the engine (diafram was split), however after fitting the new one I’ve noticed from ETKA special notes that you must use a 06H 103 495 AC part number for this engine ECU, but it also listed the AE part number, do you think this could cause an issue?
    The main cause of concern is the backfire through the intake, Compression tests show 7 bar, 8,5 bar, 8 bar, and 8.5 bar in order (1-4), the odd thing is that the misfires are mainly on 2 and 3 (5-10 a minute), with 1 and 4 rarely (maybe 1-2 every 5 minutes). Any help or suggestions will be much appreciated, I am suspecting a oil pressure issue possibly causing the variable valve timing to malfunction at lower rpm, it also seems when revved above 4000 rpm the engine is performing as it should without any misfires.

  66. Mike
    |

    I’m working on a 11 audi q5 with the 2.0 and they say the timing chain tensioner needs replaced, but the way this is acting it doesn’t seem to be a timing issue it acts like you take the turbo off and try to drive it. Won’t hardly pull itself on flat ground If there is any sort of incline the car cant pull itself and sounds like it’s going to suckered the air cleaner in very deep intake groan.

  67. Faraj
    |

    Hi,

    I have a Tiguan model 2009 done 97000 miles to date. Should I worry about the cambelt or Timing chain in it. How can I tell it has been replaced before, I shipped the vehicle from USA 1 year ago.
    Please advise

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      You will have to inspect the tensioner. You almost certainly have the old one.

  68. barry hill
    |

    Great site Paul!! See the post below… The timing chain on my 2012 i.8 TSI SkodaYeti has just failed (stretched) after 125000 kms. Ive changed oil every 12-15000kms and think that this is a premature failure. Do you agree? Is it worth replacing the chain or will the whole engine be cooked? Thanks in advance for your reply.

    http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/410485-18tsi-inlet-camshaft-variable-timing-issue-first-engine-problem-with-great-yeti-at-130k/

  69. Ray
    |

    It happened to my 2009 VW CC on Friday:( The engine had about 93k miles on it. Timing chain skipped, then piston and valve in two of the cylinders made contact. Sounded terrible. I bought a used engine from a 68k donor vehicle for $2600. Then there may be up to $1500 in labor,.. I had no idea this engine had this problem until after it happened. Do check your timing chain tensioner before it’s too late!!

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Sorry to hear about your trouble. Thanks for the feedback

  70. Viki Majama
    |

    Hello Pual!
    I recently bought a 2007 VW Golf 5 TSI. I drove the car three weeks ago at 160Km/Hr full air-con on. Wanted to see if there were any problems on it. And ALLAS!! the vehicle started loosing power, had some rattling sound from the engine. Oil had spilled all over the engine through some sensor/breather pipe which sits on top of the engine. Drove the car a km to home. Next day had it towed to the dealer, tried repairing it, changed engine followers, coil packs as they were misfiring, replaced 1 damaged piston, replaced camshaft sensor which affected timing chain position, attended to the breather pipe. Attended to the Turbo as it had too much airflow. NOW the car’s turbo works though the car doesn’t have power as before. The car has problems starting at times and engine rattles a bit. Planning another AP with Mechanic. Help out, you think i should replace the tensioner/timing chain?What could be prob.?Stressed out!!!!

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      IM sorry this doesnt sound like something I can help with. You should bring it to someone who can look at the vehicle.

  71. |

    My 2008 Passat 2.0t had some “transmission slipping” symptoms last friday, so I took it to it in to the dealer monday morning, without further issue. there were no codes, no other noises or symptoms.

    After I checked in to the service desk, the tech tried to drive it into the bay, and it clunked out and threw codes. I know now, that the tensioner had broke.

    literally, in the dealers lot, the chain snapped, and ‘sploded the engine. VWOA says I’m on my own for the $6800, even if they know this part is an achilles heel. I say, VWOA has lost a lifelong customer.

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Sorry to hear it. You should look into replacing the head with our bent valve kit and finding a local VW specialist to do the work. You will likely be able to fix the vehicle for about half that.

      • Craig
        |

        I just had my engine fail as well, I’m sure the valves are bent. Do you think there would be any damage to the block? I’m considering either buying your kit with head, buying a used head and your kit or buying a entire motor with less miles. Any advice on the better solution?

        • Paul Barrett
          |

          usually they dont do bottom end damage but they can. You wont know until you take the head off. You should break the engine down inspect then decide if the bent valve kit is right for you.

  72. Bob
    |

    I’m having the engine in my 2011 GTI replaced with a recycled engine from a 2013 Tiguan. Is it possible to check the engine for the revised timing chain tensioner and have it replaced if needed before the engine is installed in the vehicle? Thanks!

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Yes you need to check the part number. In regards to how, there is a video linked above that shows you where to check it.

  73. Hannu
    |

    I have tiguan 2.0tsi 2011. Engine is EA888, CCZD. Is it possible that i have that timing chain tensioner problem ?

    • Paul Barrett
      |

      Its is not a known issue at this time

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